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Recent Emergency Calls / Case Studies
Since we became aware of the differences between the two types of smoke detectors on the market, and
have become familiar with their limitations, we have had several incidents where we have “seen it with our
own eyes”.  This page is dedicated to telling you those “real” incidents that we have had.  If you have had
your own, please share them with us so we may post them here as well.
Lt. Ashe
                            JUNE 04, 2006
At 0751 we received a call from dispatch advising the fire alarm at a 12 story
apartment building had activated.  We initiated a normal response for us, an
Engine with two men and a Tower with one man.  Call back procedures were
used.  

When we arrived on scene, I noted there was nothing showing from the
outside.  In the lobby, the enunciator panel indicated a sprinkler alarm on
the 10th floor.  We rode the elevator to the 8th floor and walked to the 10th.
 On the fire floor, we noted a very faint smell of smoke, almost electrical in
nature.  We were thinking a ballast.  

We began to go door to door searching for the problem.  As we approached
the fire room, water began to pour from under the door and we could hear a
loud hissing sound.  When we opened the door, we found thick black smoke
in the apartment, which made it impossible to see to the windows.  The
hissing sound was the water coming from a sprinkler head in the bathroom.  
The smoke detector in the apartment was not activated.  Entering the room
required the use of breathing apparatus, yet the detector was not sounding.

This fire began in a bathroom vent.  The motor over heated, causing the fan
blade to melt and drop into a trash can.  The can smoldered for sometime
before breaking into flames.  At this point, the sprinkler head in the
bathroom popped and the fire was extinguished.  

This apartment was unoccupied at the time of the fire.  However, if it was
occupied and the occupants were asleep, it is likely they would have
perished.  This apartment had an ionization smoke alarm in it that was
found to be working at the time we were there.
                              JUNE 13, 2007
At 2011, we were advised of a fire alarm going off at a downtown apartment
complex.  I felt this was odd, as this building was tied into our municipal fire
alarm system and this box did not ring in.  We had just returned from
another fire call and so our initial response was more than normal, two
engines and a truck.

As we were turning the corner and approaching the building, dispatch
advised us they were receiving multiple calls of a fire on the second floor.  
As they said that, I could see smoke coming from a second story window.  At
this point, the alarm was upgraded one alarm.

Myself and another firefighter entered the building and made our way to the
second floor with a water can and hand tools.  Crews were stretching a hand
line behind us.  On the second floor, there was no smoke in the hall way and
the buildings alarm system was not sounding.  While searching for the fire
room, we walked right by the door and didn't know it.  An occupant from a
near by apartment told us which room it was.  

The door was locked and so we took it, while maintaining control of it, as we
only had 2 ½ gallons of water at this point.  When the door opened, we were
met with thick black smoke that was less than a foot from the floor.  I
looked in and could see a small fire on a far wall.  I was able to quickly
knock it down with the can.  At this point, the alarm system still had not
activated.  The other firefighter entered the room and began to ventilate.  
At about this time, the alarm system did activate.  

This fire began from careless disposal of cigarettes into a trash can.  The can
smoldered for some time and broke out into open flame.  There was a table
over the can which helped to contain the fire.  The smoke was very thick.  
The apartment was unoccupied at the time of the fire.  The building is
protected by ionization type smoke alarms that were found to be working at
the time we were there.
                        DECEMBER 03, 2006
At 1842, a box rang into the station for a downtown apartment complex.  A
normal response was initiated.  Before leaving the station, dispatch advised
they were receiving calls reporting a fire in the building.  At this point, the
alarm was upgraded one alarm.

Upon arriving on scene, there was nothing showing from the outside.  The
buildings alarm was activated and water was visibly splashing against a
second story window from the inside.

Once on the second floor, smoke was noticed in the hall way.  The door to
the fire room was opened and the apartment was charged with thick smoke.  
The sprinkler system had activated in the room.   The smoke alarm in the
apartment was not sounding.  (This alarm was new since the last fire in this
building)  No fire was visible.  

It was later determined that careless disposal of cigarette butts into a trash
can caused a smoldering fire, eventually erupting into a flaming fire which
caused the sprinkler head in the apartment to pop, extinguishing the fire.  
The buildings alarm system and the box was activated when the sprinkler
head popped, not because of the smoke alarm.  The building has ionization
smoke alarms that were tested by us and found to be working.
                         JANUARY 01, 2007
At 0422, we were called for a report of smoke in an apartment.  A normal
response of one Truck and one Engine responded.  Once on scene, found
nothing showing from the outside.

As we approached the apartment, we were met by an occupant at the door
bringing out material that was smoking heavily.  When we entered the
apartment, we found a trash can melted to the floor still smoking.  The fire
was extinguished quickly.

The apartment had working ionization smoke alarms and they were not
sounding.  The apartment was full of people, some children.  The smoke was
noticed by chance.  We tested the detectors before leaving the scene, and
they all tested fine.
                        FEBRUARY 03, 2007
At 1449, we received a call from a local motel reporting the lobby was filling
up with smoke.  A normal response of one Truck and One Engine responded.

While responded, an off duty Lieutenant arrived on scene and advised the
lobby was full of smoke and that it smelled like wood burning.  At this point,
the alarm was upgraded one alarm.

We arrived on scene with nothing showing from the outside, but the lobby
was heavily charged with smoke.  No alarm was sounding.  The lone
employee advised me the apartments were occupied.  I found the nearest
pull station, and activated the alarm myself.

This fire was caused by a burned out motor in a furnace downstairs.  The
smoke was contained to the unit and came out thru the vents in the lobby.  
There were  no injuries and no damage.

The lobby had so much smoke in it that I couldn’t see across to the windows
on the other side, yet no smoke detectors had activated.  This motel is
protected with ionization smoke alarms, which were working at the time we
were there.
THE SIMPLE MESSAGE
PHOTOELECTRIC AND IONIZATION SMOKE ALARMS, IN CONJUNCTION
WITH CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS, LOCATED IN THE PROPER
LOCATIONS, IS THE BEST EARLY WARNING PROTECTION YOU CAN
AFFORD YOUR FAMILY.   YOU NEED TIME TO GET YOUR FAMILY OUT.  
YOU NEED BOTH.  
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